September 19, 2003  
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Students up in arms over pit stains

Re: Pit stains - they're a crying shame

To the Editor:
It's a real shame a "campus bar" lost six regulars for such a "petty" reason as making fun of someone for their perspiration. The only thing sadder is that six regulars felt the need to be making fun of someone because they sweat, then to turn around and play the victim when their behaviour gets them in trouble.

And those regulars are exactly right: it's like (predominantly heterosexual) guys commenting on a woman's "huge rack" - it's inappropriate. If you ask me, it's not a failure on the part of the bar to have kicked them out, it's a failure that they don't kick out the losers who think it's okay to treat women like objects.

Last time I checked, the university was a service provider and, as such, is bound by Ontario Human Rights Codes. While some will argue sweaty armpits aren't covered under the code (and they aren't, last time I checked), the idea behind it is that people don't have the right to treat other people like crap - kudos to the bouncer for realizing this and not just letting it slide.

Maybe I'm just sweating the small stuff (no pun intended), but that kind of behaviour is a microcosm of the greater problem that exists on our campus - people are making other people feel like crap for things beyond their control.

Maybe I'm just a naive boy from a small town, but it seems to me that if we stopped caring so much about petty things like appearances, maybe we'd all feel a little more welcome on this campus.

Dustin Costescu
Medicine I

Re: Pit stains - they're a crying shame

To the Editor:
Having read the "Pit Stain" letter, we felt compelled to respond to the writer's complaint. Amazingly, he seems to find his actions that evening were warranted (if this is the whole story) and his ejection from the bar was totally unjust. It is people like him who cause fights in bars every night.

First, when did "pit stains" become such an "anomaly?" Are you somehow immune from sweating yourself?

Second, it is clearly offensive to point out perceived faults in strangers. Rather than harassing this person because you felt he was too noisy, you easily could have moved. We were at The Wave on Saturday evening as well and know for a fact there was plenty of seating available. Maybe if you really liked the spot, you could have politely asked him to quiet down. It sounds as though you were looking for trouble.

It's possible the bouncer overreacted, but if you start insulting random patrons in a business establishment, you should expect to be thrown out. It is not the bar's staff that should feel embarrassed, it's you. If your letter is any indication of your character then the bar is better off without the business of you and your friends.

Bill Sura
Science III
Matt Fenyvesi
Geography III

Staying cool for $7,000

To the Editor:
I spent $7,000 on residence and my air conditioning doesn't work. I'm living in residence for the second year in a row and I'm really enjoying the friends, the activities and the community.

One thing I am really not enjoying is how my housing officials are fucking the dog instead of repairing the air-conditioning in my building. If I had chosen to live off campus this year it would have cost me a hell of a lot less and I would have had a hell of a lot more ability to complain to my landlord. I'm not paying seven grand to sweat my balls off while I'm being told that no one can be paid the overtime to come in and repair an air-conditioner on a Sunday.

Instead of sitting in hot, stagnant air, I would prefer to get my thousands of dollars worth and live as comfortably as I was promised. I'm a dollar sign, not a student.

M.R. Piekosz
Social Science II

Non-Lewinsky intern positions

Re: Colleges add theory, lose fun

To the Editor:
I would like to point out that there are several experiential learning opportunities offered through various internship and co-op programs on campus. While not every faculty offers a work term component, there are programs in the faculty of engineering, faculty of science, faculty of information and media studies and the bachelor of administrative and commercial studies program (to name a few) that allow for students to gain practical experience in their field of study.

There may be additional work experience programs offered through other faculties as well. Work terms can vary from four to 16 months and can be paid or unpaid. These work terms are not guaranteed. Students are required to meet certain criteria and then compete for the available job opportunities.

Students should check with their faculties and departments to find out what co-op or internship opportunities are available to them. Getting a university degree can be more than just learning theory.

Colleen Sutherland
Coordinator, UWO Internship Programs



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